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WHI-1183 | Covenant Theology Explored

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>What is covenant theology and why is it crucial for our overall understanding of Scripture? How does covenant theology relate to our understanding of law and gospel? What is the difference between the Abrahamic and Mosaic covenants? On this edition of White Horse Inn, we discuss these important questions with Mike Brown and Zach Keele, authors of Sacred Bond: Covenant Theology Explored (originally aired Nov 11, 2012).

What is covenant theology and why is it crucial for our overall understanding of Scripture? How does covenant theology relate to our understanding of law and gospel? What is the difference between the Abrahamic and Mosaic covenants? On this edition of White Horse Inn, we discuss these important questions with Mike Brown and Zach Keele, authors of Sacred Bond: Covenant Theology Explored (originally aired Nov 11, 2012).




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  • I encourage you guys to study O Palmer Robertson's excellent books on the covenants.

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  • Guest - Bill

    This was an unfortunate episode in that those of us that support the original Reformation will never support covenant theology as expounded on this program.

    In particular the covenant of Redemption is goes against everything scripture teaches. To even suggest that there is a covenant between the three persons of the Trinity is beyond me. It basically makes God a slave, turns a free God into a God that is now obligated to man (the elect). It is nowhere in scripture and it is actually against scripture to suggest that somehow Christ entered into a covenant with the Father whereby he now owes certain men (the elect) salvation. A covenant is a legal notion and to even suggest that the persons of the Trinity have a covenant among themselves and are legally bound to each other, as I said has no scriptural basis.

    I can understand the covenant of works and the covenant of grace, even Paul talks about the old and the new testament (covenant), referring to two types of covenants (not the books of the bile in the old and new testament). This distinction is useful in that allows to distinguish between law and gospel. However to suggest that the covenant of grace is based on a covenant of redemption between the three persons of the Trinity obscures the gospel and instead of pointing to Christ it points to an obscure decree of election by which so and so will be saved and so and so will be damned, this is certainly false teaching and highlights the darks side that lurks in calvinism.

    As a result of this obscure decree of election that Lutherans reject, no good news was proclaimed in this White Horse Inn program. As a believer in Christ I didn't hear once that election is in Christ and those that believe in Jesus Christ have been elected before the foundation of the world unto salvation. As a matter of fact I heard about an obscure election between the three persons of the Trinity that entered into a covenant without giving any comfort to those that believe in Christ that they are the elect. Now unbelievers that heard this program heard some really bad news, that the Trinity entered into a covenant to save a few elect and the first thing they are going to think is that they are not part of the select few that are covered in this alleged but unscriptural covenant of Redemption. The unbeliever instead should have heard that Christ died for him, for every single person in the world. Yes the Trinity works with one purpose and this is the redemption of every single human being on the planet and Christ shed his blood for everybody atoning for the sins of all mankind, Pharaoh and Judas included. The condemnation of Pharaoh and Judas is that they rejected God's mercy, Pharaoh heard the gospel from Moses and Judas from Christ, and yet they rejected the good news. It is not that the blood of Christ did not cover their sins or that they were excluded in the Covenant of Redemption by the Trinity, quite the opposite it is their own rejection of Christ that condemned them.

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  • Guest - TK

    Bill describes the reason why I only listen to WHI every couple months, and even less as time goes on. The show has in the past year or two taken on a promotion of "Reformed" theology rather than "Reformation" theology. I don't so much hear an exchange of ideas and thoughtful disagreements as I do

    Perhaps it is not intentional, and perhaps I am hyper-sensitive, but that's the way I see it and why I listen much less than I used to.

    Nonetheless, I still listen. Every so often, there's a gem that surfaces that makes me want to return.

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  • Guest - TK

    **I don’t so much hear an exchange of ideas and thoughtful disagreements as I do an explanation of Reformed theology.

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