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Mike Horton and Ken Jones Invite You

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It's almost time for the Semper Reformanda conference in Houston, Texas. Here's Mike Horton's and Ken Jones' personal invitation to you to join them and Voddie Baucham and Thabiti Anyabwile later this month at Grace Family Baptist Church.

Laugh along with Mike and Ken as they poke a little fun at one another and totally mispronounce Thabiti Anyabwile's name. I'm sure there will be some retribution coming!

[audio:http://www.whitehorseinn.org/mp3/semperad.mp3|titles=Semper Reformanda Conference|artists=White Horse Inn]

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  • How interesting that this conference is being hosted by Voddie Baucham's Grace Family Baptist Church. Dr. Jones says Pastor Baucham is an avid listener to WHI, for which I am glad. I've listened to a few clips of his preaching and recognize that he is a gifted preacher of the gospel. There is a point of contrast I see, however, in one issue which is treated by both WHI and GFBC.

    WHI has greatly benefited the church in recent years by alerting us to the consequences of so many evangelical parents neglecting to train their children in the faith at home and leaving the work to the children and youth ministries of their local churches. GFBC likewise majors on providing a corrective to this very real problem, but I fear their approach may run the risk of swinging the pendulum to the opposite extreme. GFBC aligns itself with the so-called "multi-generational" and "family-integrated church" movement (FIC), which is a subset of the Biblical Patriarchy movement spearheaded by Doug Phillips of Vision Forum, among others. This concerns me, for unlike the WHI, the FIC movement seeks to eliminate all graded approaches to Sunday school, while the WHI recommends balance. I agree with the balanced approach which keeps the baby of family worship while throwing out the bath water of over-dependence on Sunday School.

    The FIC movement, by contrast, decries graded Sunday Schools as the product of "evolutionary thinking." It also at times encourages rather extreme applications regarding male leadership in the home which are prone to distort the biblical and Christ-centered complementarianism of the relationship between husbands and wives if not balanced properly by the gospel and a healthy understanding of Christian liberty. These principles have caused churches to split, and have done real harm to families in some cases. I pray such is not the case among GFBC.

    I would appreciate some interaction on this issue from any other readers of this blog, especially listeners to both the White Horse Inn and Voddie Baucham's ministry. A lot of critique of the Biblical Patriarchy/multi-generational/family integrated church movement can be found on the internet among egalitarians, but I think not nearly enough has been done by complementarian evangelicals who agree that both family worship and Sunday School are beneficial ministries. If anyone can do a good job of dealing with this, Horton, Jones, Riddlebarger and Rosenbladt certainly can!

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  • Guest - Rayn

    John,

    I am a Tennessean, currently southern baptist (considering Presbyterian), and consider myself Reformed. Since listneing to WHI about a year ago, I have learned a lot more about Reformed theology and am learning more about the covenant structure of Scripture. I say all this because there is in the south a kind of Reformed theology, i.e. Calvinistic, represented by men such as Paul Washer, Jeff Noblit, David Miller, and others. Voddie Baucham has spoken at many of the conferences which feature men of this line. There are certainly theological differences between the two and I think this is because WHI is more in touch with sound Reformation roots. I don't really hear a lot about "law-gospel" distinction from these men, repentance isn't explained exactly the same way (though there are similarities), I don't hear much about a covenant theology present in even other baptisits such as John Piper, and certainly on assurance there are strong differences. There are similarities between the anabaptists, and hints of revivalism and pietism. However, I think the title "Semper Reformanda" is very appropriate and I am glad to see Michael Horton, Ken Jones, and Thabiti Anyabwile involved with Voddie. Voddie believes in the importance of doctrine and in imputed righteousness. I'm pretty sure Voddie Baucham would consider himself to be a complimentarian although there is probably a difference of emphasis in practice that I think is due to a lack of understanding of Christian liberty and the concept of wisdom. Please pray that God will use this to bring Reformation to the Bible belt!

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  • Rayn,

    Thanks for the reply. I am glad to see WHI's cooperation with GFBC, and I certainly do pray the Lord uses them to call that church, and indeed, the greater Biblical Patriarchy/FIC movement at large, to a more liberating expression of Reformed confessionalism. But I still think analysis of this movement as an overreaction against neglect of family worship and unnecessary rejection of church-based children's and youth ministries is in order.

    Regarding the issue of Rev. Baucham's "complementarianism," it has been my experience that at least some in the FIC movement reject this term as a compromise, in favor of "patriarchy," with a more strident focus on the federal headship of the father--in some cases, to the extreme that the daughter should consider herself a junior help mate of the father, in training for her husband; that she should not leave the house until her father gives her away to her groom, and that women, commanded to be keepers at home, do not need as much education as men, and indeed, should not work outside the home unless it is in a business run by her own husband. To top it all off, the father so represents the interests of the family that the wife should not even bother voting, lest she "cause division" in the household. Calvinists of this caliber, in my experience, tend to look on complementarian evangelicals as functional egalitarians. I submit that such a divisive stance calls for a response, and it is my hope that one day we will be treated to the White Horse Inn's position on this movement.

    In the meantime, I do pray they have an edifying conference that glorifies God and has a favorable moderating influence on the Biblical Patriarchy/multi-generational/FIC movement.

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  • Guest - Rayn

    I think your analysis is probably basically correct, although I'm not so sure that Baucham has attacked all Sunday School programs altogether while he chooses to opt out of them. Nor can I recall if he's ever explicitly used the tag "complimentarian" for his position while he certainly uses the term patriarch to describe the father's role in the family. I think his overemphasis of this function appears most vividly in his outright rejection of dating in favor of courtship, not so much in the extremes you listed, which he tends to shy away from. This is where I think the doctrine of Christian liberty and the use of wisdom is lacking. Nevertheless it should also be acknowledged that Voddie does believe the husband leads by serving. He's close to complimentarianism on some points, even if the practice is sometimes inconsistent with the definitions.

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  • Glad to hear it, Rayn. I know there's a spectrum in the movement, and I know these are nonessentials about which we are free to come to different conclusions.

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  • I would so love to go to this conference and benfit from the teaching that will be on offer. I have particularly been blessed by Voddie Baucham's teaching of late. God bless all those who attend, unfortunately it's a bit far for me in Australia

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  • Guest - Brian Grawburg

    I am sadden that both Mike and Ken are attending this conference. Although Vision Forum is not officialy represented, Voddie Baucham is pretty close to Doug Phillips. VF's Theonomic/Christian Reconstructionism and the abysmal exegesis of Old Testament narratives found in the "Tenets of Biblical Patriarchy" are disturbing. I just finished a 16 page critique of 2 of those tenets (22 & 23) and made reference to Modern Reformation several times. While Dr. Baucham clearly preaches the gospel I'm concerned that he has mixed it with FIC and VF "laws".

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  • Guest - Barry Rooney

    @ Brian

    I would just like to state that the term Patriarchy is thrown around 9 times out of 10 without context. I remember when I first heard of some of this along with other things taught by Rev. Baucham and I reacted very negatively to it. I thought it was poor exegesis as well. However there were some things mentioned that just stuck in my crawl. After further reading I have become convinced that we have a great deal of the "does a fish know he is wait" syndrome then we know! I suggest you listen to primary sources (Doug Phillips and Rev. Bauchmen) if you haven't already. Feel free to listen to Doug Phillips lecture on Patriarchy on sermon audio for free. At least you will see where is coming from. And as much as I love Dr. Horton and enjoy the WHI - his exegesis on the OT regarding the Republication of the CoW via M. Kline is equally poor.

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  • Guest - Barry Rooney

    That would be "a fish know he is WET" - sorry for that gentlemen!

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