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WHI-1119 | Christianity vs. Pop Spirituality

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What is the typical message one is likely to find in the "Religion and Spirituality" section of a local bookstore, and how does that view differ from classical Christianity? On this program, the hosts contrast the historic Christian gospel with numerous bestselling alternatives, from both the world of New Age spirituality as well as many of the "practical" books in the "Christian Living" section of a typical evangelical bookstore.

What is the typical message one is likely to find in the "Religion and Spirituality" section of a local bookstore, and how does that view differ from classical Christianity? On this program, the hosts contrast the historic Christian gospel with numerous bestselling alternatives, from both the world of New Age spirituality as well as many of the "practical" books in the "Christian Living" section of a typical evangelical bookstore.




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  • Thank you so much for this audio cast. Would you consider Beth Moore to also be a teacher of gnosticism?

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  • Guest - Adam

    Beth Moore has def became some kind of Mystic

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  • Guest - Jules

    Being a Houstonian, I am very familiar with both Joel Osteen and Beth Moore. Gnostics? Osteen definitely. Beth Moore, not even close. Those who put her in that category must have minimal knowledge of her, because her teachings are very grounded in scripture and deal with all aspects of Christianity, not just the warm and fuzzy. Be careful of labeling someone with such a description just because he/she is a popular Christian speaker.

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  • Guest - Kathy

    I had heard talk about Beth Moore, but didn't read any of her books until attending a women's event at church in which I knew some ideas weren't Biblical. A short clip from Beth Moore was played at this event and prompted me to do some research. I bought two of her books and also listened a few times to her daily show.

    On numerous occasions, I read or heard Mrs. Moore talk about how God had talked to her or told her something; many of the teachings she received were very specific. She is proclaiming herself a prophet. If she's a true prophet, her words need to be added to the canon. If she's not a true prophet, we shouldn't be listening to her.

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  • As usual, I love this podcast. People are mystified when you resist their notion that the answer to legalism is "love", and that Mother Teresa might be wrong. It is truly crazy how Christless the message of most of the Christian church world seems to be. I really appreciate what you guys are doing so much!

    I would agree with Jules above, that we must be careful about labeling everyone that says anything a little off as a gnostic. I revolve my whole message and existence around Christ and Him crucified and nothing else, but I'm sure someone could pull something from something I've written or said and make it out to be gnostic. It is probably good that I would be reprimanded for saying something like that, but it doesn't necessarily make ME a gnostic. We are after all under grace, and Christ's blood was spilled for that error.

    As believers, I think we are to be characterized as advocates of the grace which comes from being justified by the precious blood of Christ, not as being against gnosticism. I don't think White Horse Inn does this, and it is entirely appropriate to have a podcast here or there about this, and even have some fun with some of the nutty things out there. However, we don't want to be mainly characterized by our stand against gnosticism, particularly in a nitpicky way. 1 John 2 paints the perfect picture, that the antichrists will go out from us, simply because we continue to adhere to great doctrine, not because we actively hunt them down and eject them.

    Thanks so much for your awesome ministry!

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  • Guest - Dan

    I appreciated this program, and it really scared me just how much of what you were observing is really in the pop preaching world-wide.
    I would like to understand this more, are there any good resources covering early gnosticism, and the development of gnosticism?

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  • Guest - Rayn

    Dan, buy Michael Horton's Systematic Theology and read the whole thing through. Part one is devoted to the presuppositions of theology in which he identifies three paradigms for knowing God called "overcoming estrangement" (platonism, which is the framework for gnostic Christianity), the stranger we never meet (deism and atheism), and "meeting a stranger" (the covenantal, Christian epistemology). He not only identifies their origins but traces how they have influenced Christianity historically and notes certain tendencies toward each in modern theology, charting a path toward his own covenantal position. You will not understand it all the first time but just one read will probably correct a lot of your own thinking and enable you to reason with others more capably. For further studies on gnosticism and primary sources, you can look into the citations which are many.

    God bless. : )

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  • Guest - Dan

    Hi Ryan,

    Thanks.

    I have read the first part to Horton's Systematic Theology. it is definitely a continued reading source. I will have a look at the citations and follow up what i can.

    I should also explain that i am 6hours from the nearest quality Bible College, so i am looking at buying these resources to read and follow up, yet i do have a small budget.

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  • Guest - Rayn

    Origen of Alexandria was basically gnostic. You can read some of his writings for free at ccel.org. I believe they also have the gnostic gospels. You could try reading them while having Romans or Colossians open for comparison/contrast purposes.

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  • Guest - Wendy

    What do you think about Beth Moore, John Piper leading the Youth into Lectio Divina at Louie Giglio Passion’s Conference 2012?

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