WHI-1038 | Lost Tools of Discipleship
Jesus tells his followers to “make disciples of all nations.” But what does it mean to become a disciple, and what are today’s churches doing to fulfill this mission? Is this something for new converts only, or is it something we all participate in and pass on to our children? On this edition of White Horse Inn, the hosts will interact with these question and more as they discuss “The Lost Tools of discipleship.”
The Lost Tools of Learning
Dorothy Sayers
What is Discipleship Anyway?
Michael Horton
Dewey’s Copernican Revolution
Shane Rosenthal
WHI Discussion Group Questions
PDF Document
The Gospel Commission
Michael Horton
Letters to a Diminished Church
Dorothy Sayers
Creed or Chaos
Dorothy Sayers
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David Hlebo
February 27th, 2011 at 5:16 am
Spot on! I have seen in my ripe age of 62 years that basic reading levels have declined as the “information age” as increased. We have tons of data and ounces of logic and spiritual discernment. So, some of the modern translations are geared to 7th grade reading levels (or much lower) because the culture has become functionally illiterate. Everything has become emotional–love is what you “feel” and truth has become what makes you “feel good”. The decade of the 60′s has come home to roost in the church. We must go back to basics. Let us spell out our words instead of “lol”, “rofl”, “ur”, etcetera. Let us spell out our theology too.
February 28th, 2011 at 7:39 am
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February 28th, 2011 at 7:51 am
Thanks for this great podcast, series, and ministry. All have been incredibly helpful to me. On numerous occasions the topics raised in this week’s podcast have been broached by the guys in the past. Each time, as a Sunday School teacher and leadership team member of Christian Education, I wonder…how is it supposed to look…where can I find examples of such things that I can use or suggest for use? We are a small church (200-300 attending) and we have a weakening Sunday School program both in goals and numbers and a competing AWANA program during the week that saps Sunday School resources in terms of vision, energy, resources and participation. You guys look at the macro view this week(and I am reading and studying to understand that) but I am wondering where I might find the nuts and bolts of the micro view of lost tools of discipleship. Thanks!
February 28th, 2011 at 1:35 pm
Today was the first day I have listened to your program, but the topic could not have been more relevant. Just yesterday I sat in the lobby of my church talking with another attender about how I feel that the church as a whole, and this includes my own church, has bought into the glitzy, “wow” factor of entertainment to get people in the doors. I stated yesterday that it seems that people today do not have a clue why they believe what they claim. That makes me fearful of what the church will look like in 10 years.
One of the statements made in “Lost Tools of Discipleship” that there is no “grammer & logic of the Christian faith.” I sit here almost in tears thinking about how true that is. Please, would you recommend some resources so that I can implement more “grammer & logic” in my own life and in the lives of those around me?
March 2nd, 2011 at 1:02 pm
Thanks for your frank comments and concern. Happily, ours is not the first era to face this sort of challenge. That’s why the Reformation revived the early church practice of “catechism”: that is, teaching the grammar of the faith through basic questions and answers. Luther’s Small Catechism, the Heidelberg Catechism, and the Westminster Shorter Catechism are the major examples and they are still great for this crucial task today. So I’d start there. They also support their answers with biblical references, so that’s a good way to dig into Scripture on those big issues.
March 9th, 2011 at 2:17 pm
Thank you for the podcast, for connecting discipleship with Sayers and the classic Trivium. Please, I am part of a free church tradition and have never seen a catechism in practice. How would actually use it at church? Say, at Sunday School? We already encourage the church to use it at home.
March 13th, 2011 at 6:36 pm
Good program. The What is Discipleship Anyway?
by Michael Horton and Dewey’s Copernican Revolution by
Shane Rosenthal are pointing to some other article. Could you correct them? Thanks, BLS
March 18th, 2011 at 10:19 am
Thanks for the heads up. It’s fixed.