THEY ARE IN A “CHURCH” SINGING THIS BLASPHEMY?
GOD HELP US IF THEY THINK A WOMAN WILL BE OUR SAVIOR.
1 Tim 2:12-14
“And I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man, but to be in silence.
For Adam was formed first, then Ev…e.
And Adam was not deceived, BUT THE WOMAN BEING DECEIVED, FELL INTO TRANSGRESSION.”
Ann- Are you kidding me!? This is just some FUN humor! This is NOT blasphemy, it’s some politcal humor, that is ALL! I think you need to realize that God has a sense of humor as well. Don’t just “Throw” scripture at things. See the heart of the person(s) first.
Ann–Please don’t let them get you down! You’re absolutely right. They’re defaming a song held by some (you included, apparently) as dear as the name of our Lord, and on that basis–that a song can be as holy as God, and therefore to change the words is to sell-out all that is holy–you are quite correct.
Also, your anti-female views–when you (judging unfairly by your name) appear to be one–intrigues me. You seem passionate and brought to anger by old people. I feel your pain.
As a Brit with an interest in US politics as well as in the WHI, I can’t quite believe this. I was thinking \Monty Python\ all the way through. I can’t bring myself to believe this is for real.
If however it is, then the song is actually quite disturbing: the language of heading south, the Ice Maiden coming to destroy them stuff.
Either way, it’s no edifying way of using a church building: the speck in the eye of Doritos and Coke is surely not as large as this mote?
Oh My Lanta!!
By the time I get a joke it’s no longer funny.
*I used the word “blasphemy” because they are in a place that is set aside for the preaching of the gospel.
*I do not think the song (original or otherwise) is holy or synonymous with God. That is preposterous!
*I am NOT anti-female, I am anti-feminist.
*I love that these senior citizens are so… um… creative with this patriotic tune, just don’t make me listen to such a thing when I am come to hear the gospel!
I would need a barph-bag!!!
Respectfully.
I think the subject lines says it all, “Can You Say “Kingdom Confusion”? I Knew You Could!”.
This is mostly definitely a confusion of kingdoms and it sickens me a little, but to tell the truth can anyone be surprised? This IS what a lot of conservative Christianity looks like in the Midwest. To identify the United States with being a Christian may sound wacky to either coast, but it’s normal life in the rural parts of this country.
This isn’t parody. This isn’t comedy. It’s reality in much of the US and a lot of folks in Reformed and Lutheran circles forget that or never knew it to begin with because it’s so foreign to them.
I don’t enjoy politics getting deeply involved in the church.
I do believe that it should be implanted in certain positions, the church should fight injustice in a country, and are allowed to vote etc.
Unfortunately some Churches (and I’m not saying the people are bad! Or unsaved.) are deeply involved with the Republican party etc. To the point where they may take the view that the party holds over the position of Gods word. And I’m a conservative (politically) person.
Uh, Jason E, I agree with everything you say except for putting it on the Midwest (unless that’s where you live and you are seeing your share of it right where you are)! There are Christian-America believers everywhere and it’s not limited to the Midwest. A good share of the conservative Christian political noise has come from states such as California, Colorado, and Virginia, but not limited to those.
Given all of that – no, things are not all that great here in the Midwest. But are they anywhere in the USA these days?
As someone who has lived in both the Midwest and in California, I must admit I have seen more politics from the pulpit/ pastor in various forms from churches in Southern California. I say this as someone who had even attended a Midwest church where the pastor had just returned from Iraq as an army chaplain (this man could have easily made numerous political commentaries but did not).
Once you put the American flag in the sanctuary, sing patriotic songs around July 4th, and do multimedia presentations in honor of the troops on memorial day Sunday why not just bow down to Palin on church?!? It’s not just confusing the kingdom, it’s worshipping a secular nation state. Early Christians were martyred for refusing to bow the knee to Caesar. That may not be far off for true believers in this “Christian” nation.
The only thing to make this display more troubling would be to discover Sarah Palin has been affiliated with that church for, let’s say, the last twenty years of her adult life. Equally disturbing too are all the churches that are deeply involved with the Democrat party to the point where they openly invite politicians to speak (i.e., campaign) from their pulpits.
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January 18th, 2011 at 12:33 pm
THEY ARE IN A “CHURCH” SINGING THIS BLASPHEMY?
GOD HELP US IF THEY THINK A WOMAN WILL BE OUR SAVIOR.
1 Tim 2:12-14
“And I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man, but to be in silence.
For Adam was formed first, then Ev…e.
And Adam was not deceived, BUT THE WOMAN BEING DECEIVED, FELL INTO TRANSGRESSION.”
January 18th, 2011 at 1:40 pm
Ann- Are you kidding me!? This is just some FUN humor! This is NOT blasphemy, it’s some politcal humor, that is ALL! I think you need to realize that God has a sense of humor as well. Don’t just “Throw” scripture at things. See the heart of the person(s) first.
January 18th, 2011 at 1:57 pm
*headdesk* Oh come on now. It’s almost suppertime!
January 18th, 2011 at 3:25 pm
Hey, does anyone know where I can get a copy of this song? Something tells me it’s not making it to iTunes…
January 19th, 2011 at 7:45 am
Ann–Please don’t let them get you down! You’re absolutely right. They’re defaming a song held by some (you included, apparently) as dear as the name of our Lord, and on that basis–that a song can be as holy as God, and therefore to change the words is to sell-out all that is holy–you are quite correct.
Also, your anti-female views–when you (judging unfairly by your name) appear to be one–intrigues me. You seem passionate and brought to anger by old people. I feel your pain.
January 19th, 2011 at 11:41 am
As a Brit with an interest in US politics as well as in the WHI, I can’t quite believe this. I was thinking \Monty Python\ all the way through. I can’t bring myself to believe this is for real.
If however it is, then the song is actually quite disturbing: the language of heading south, the Ice Maiden coming to destroy them stuff.
Either way, it’s no edifying way of using a church building: the speck in the eye of Doritos and Coke is surely not as large as this mote?
January 19th, 2011 at 12:53 pm
Oh My Lanta!!
By the time I get a joke it’s no longer funny.
*I used the word “blasphemy” because they are in a place that is set aside for the preaching of the gospel.
*I do not think the song (original or otherwise) is holy or synonymous with God. That is preposterous!
*I am NOT anti-female, I am anti-feminist.
*I love that these senior citizens are so… um… creative with this patriotic tune, just don’t make me listen to such a thing when I am come to hear the gospel!
I would need a barph-bag!!!
Respectfully.
January 20th, 2011 at 5:55 am
I think the subject lines says it all, “Can You Say “Kingdom Confusion”? I Knew You Could!”.
This is mostly definitely a confusion of kingdoms and it sickens me a little, but to tell the truth can anyone be surprised? This IS what a lot of conservative Christianity looks like in the Midwest. To identify the United States with being a Christian may sound wacky to either coast, but it’s normal life in the rural parts of this country.
This isn’t parody. This isn’t comedy. It’s reality in much of the US and a lot of folks in Reformed and Lutheran circles forget that or never knew it to begin with because it’s so foreign to them.
January 20th, 2011 at 9:20 am
Props, Jason E.
Well said.
January 20th, 2011 at 1:27 pm
These kind of things going on in a church just give me the chills
January 20th, 2011 at 3:19 pm
I don’t enjoy politics getting deeply involved in the church.
I do believe that it should be implanted in certain positions, the church should fight injustice in a country, and are allowed to vote etc.
Unfortunately some Churches (and I’m not saying the people are bad! Or unsaved.) are deeply involved with the Republican party etc. To the point where they may take the view that the party holds over the position of Gods word. And I’m a conservative (politically) person.
January 20th, 2011 at 7:10 pm
Uh, Jason E, I agree with everything you say except for putting it on the Midwest (unless that’s where you live and you are seeing your share of it right where you are)! There are Christian-America believers everywhere and it’s not limited to the Midwest. A good share of the conservative Christian political noise has come from states such as California, Colorado, and Virginia, but not limited to those.
Given all of that – no, things are not all that great here in the Midwest. But are they anywhere in the USA these days?
January 20th, 2011 at 7:37 pm
I didn’t mean that this only happens in the Midwest but it is very pervasive in rural areas.
January 21st, 2011 at 8:44 am
Wasn’t the original a bit of kingdom confusion anyway? That holy war idea just never seems to go away.
January 21st, 2011 at 3:08 pm
That’s scary stuff. Something about it just feels off-kilter.
January 22nd, 2011 at 2:19 pm
Where is the leaders of the church on this. How did it even make it before the church.
January 22nd, 2011 at 11:53 pm
As someone who has lived in both the Midwest and in California, I must admit I have seen more politics from the pulpit/ pastor in various forms from churches in Southern California. I say this as someone who had even attended a Midwest church where the pastor had just returned from Iraq as an army chaplain (this man could have easily made numerous political commentaries but did not).
January 23rd, 2011 at 10:00 pm
Once you put the American flag in the sanctuary, sing patriotic songs around July 4th, and do multimedia presentations in honor of the troops on memorial day Sunday why not just bow down to Palin on church?!? It’s not just confusing the kingdom, it’s worshipping a secular nation state. Early Christians were martyred for refusing to bow the knee to Caesar. That may not be far off for true believers in this “Christian” nation.
January 25th, 2011 at 11:29 am
The only thing to make this display more troubling would be to discover Sarah Palin has been affiliated with that church for, let’s say, the last twenty years of her adult life. Equally disturbing too are all the churches that are deeply involved with the Democrat party to the point where they openly invite politicians to speak (i.e., campaign) from their pulpits.
January 27th, 2011 at 1:47 pm
Hi Eric,
I’m an alumni of WSC and a fan of the show. I thought this link could be something worth talking about. I know Anderson Cooper did.
http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2011/01/27/tax-incentives-for-biblical-theme-park/