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		<title>By: Ser calvinista é o mesmo que ser reformado? &#124; Monergismo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ser calvinista é o mesmo que ser reformado? &#124; Monergismo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Dec 2011 05:03:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Michael Horton compartilha seus pensamentos em um artigo intitulado “The Hallway and the Rooms”: [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Candi May</title>
		<link>http://www.whitehorseinn.org/blog/2010/04/21/the-hallway-and-the-rooms/#comment-5403</link>
		<dc:creator>Candi May</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jun 2011 16:24:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do believe that creeds and confessions are very important.  I do believe that labels can be useful to quickly identify what one believes, thus making it easier to know where one stands.  I do not believe that having a &quot;Tell me the password or you can&#039;t get into my club&quot; mentality towards creeds and confessions reflects the brotherly charity Paul stressed in Romans 14:1-15:7. 

BUT, these issues were not the main point of this article.  Look at the title, &quot;The Hallway and the Rooms&quot;.  Look at the analogy draw from C.S. Lewis (found in the last two paragraphs of the Preface of &#039;Mere Christianity&#039;).  The whole point is to make the main thing the main thing!!  

Yes, we should know what we believe and why we believe it.  No, we should not toss labels around so carelessly so that they have no meaning (Lewis also deals with meaningless words in the same Preface to the same book).  But what is of primary importance is that we &#039;get into our room&#039;and get busy doing its work.  

We need to become intimately involved in the visible, local church of which we are members.  Not activities, fund-raisers, or senior van trips.  Those are fine and dandy, like pretty curtains on the wall, or a lovely vase on a shelf.  The add a nice little touch to the atmosphere.  

A room, however, has far greater purposes: fellowship, meals, instruction, encouragement, protection from the elements.  The intent of this article was to cause us to recognize the difference between the hallway (the areas upon which we can agree) and the rooms (the distinctives that make us unique members of the same body) and drive us to spend our time and energies primarily in our own particular room.

Rather than standing guard at the door of our room deciding who we&#039;ll allow to enter, let us strengthen those who are already in our room and allow ourselves to be encouraged by them.  Let us encourage the weak brother and not turn him away.  

Lewis&#039;s first instruction in the &#039;rooms&#039; analogy was to prefer a room over the hall (which is the same as this article of Eric Landry&#039;s):

&quot;It (Christianity) is more like a hall out of which doors open into several rooms.  If I can bring anyone into that hall I shall have done what I attempted.  But it is in the rooms, not in the hall, that there are fires and chairs and meals.  The hall is a place to wait in, a place from which to try the various doors, not a place to live in...And above all you must be asking which door is the true one; not which pleases you best by its paint and panelling.  In plain language, the question should never be: &#039;Do I like that kind of service?&#039; but &#039;Are these doctrines true: Is holiness here?  Does my conscience move me towards this?  Is my reluctance to knock at this door due to my pride, or my mere taste, or my personal dislike of this particular door-keeper?&#039;&quot;

But Lewis&#039;s next paragraph address the crisis of disunity evidenced by the collective responses given to our present article:

&quot;When you have reached your own room, be kind to those who have chosen different doors and to those who are still in the hall.  If they are wrong they need your prayers all the more; and if they are your enemies, then you are under orders to pray for them.  That is one of the rules common to the whole house.&quot;

Let us be more concerned with being a viable, living &#039;body of Christ&#039; than who is an &#039;eye&#039; or &#039;foot&#039; or &#039;ear&#039;:

&quot;For as the body is one, and hath many members, and all the members of that one body, being many, are one body: so also is Christ.  For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit. For the body is not one member, but many.  

If the foot shall say, Because I am not the hand, I am not of the body; is it therefore not of the body?  And if the ear shall say, Because I am not the eye, I am not of the body; is it therefore not of the body?  

If the whole body were an eye, where were the hearing? If the whole were hearing, where were the smelling?  But now hath God set the members every one of them in the body, as it hath pleased him.  And if they were all one member, where were the body?  But now are they many members, yet but one body.  

And the eye cannot say unto the hand, I have no need of thee: nor again the head to the feet, I have no need of you.  Nay, much more those members of the body, which seem to be more feeble, are necessary:  

And those members of the body, which we think to be less honourable, upon these we bestow more abundant honour; and our uncomely parts have more abundant comeliness.  For our comely parts have no need: but God hath tempered the body together, having given more abundant honour to that part which lacked: That there should be no schism in the body; but that the members should have the same care one for another.  And whether one member suffer, all the members suffer with it; or one member be honoured, all the members rejoice with it.  Now ye are the body of Christ, and members in particular&quot; (I Corinthians 12:12-27)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do believe that creeds and confessions are very important.  I do believe that labels can be useful to quickly identify what one believes, thus making it easier to know where one stands.  I do not believe that having a &#8220;Tell me the password or you can&#8217;t get into my club&#8221; mentality towards creeds and confessions reflects the brotherly charity Paul stressed in Romans 14:1-15:7. </p>
<p>BUT, these issues were not the main point of this article.  Look at the title, &#8220;The Hallway and the Rooms&#8221;.  Look at the analogy draw from C.S. Lewis (found in the last two paragraphs of the Preface of &#8216;Mere Christianity&#8217;).  The whole point is to make the main thing the main thing!!  </p>
<p>Yes, we should know what we believe and why we believe it.  No, we should not toss labels around so carelessly so that they have no meaning (Lewis also deals with meaningless words in the same Preface to the same book).  But what is of primary importance is that we &#8216;get into our room&#8217;and get busy doing its work.  </p>
<p>We need to become intimately involved in the visible, local church of which we are members.  Not activities, fund-raisers, or senior van trips.  Those are fine and dandy, like pretty curtains on the wall, or a lovely vase on a shelf.  The add a nice little touch to the atmosphere.  </p>
<p>A room, however, has far greater purposes: fellowship, meals, instruction, encouragement, protection from the elements.  The intent of this article was to cause us to recognize the difference between the hallway (the areas upon which we can agree) and the rooms (the distinctives that make us unique members of the same body) and drive us to spend our time and energies primarily in our own particular room.</p>
<p>Rather than standing guard at the door of our room deciding who we&#8217;ll allow to enter, let us strengthen those who are already in our room and allow ourselves to be encouraged by them.  Let us encourage the weak brother and not turn him away.  </p>
<p>Lewis&#8217;s first instruction in the &#8216;rooms&#8217; analogy was to prefer a room over the hall (which is the same as this article of Eric Landry&#8217;s):</p>
<p>&#8220;It (Christianity) is more like a hall out of which doors open into several rooms.  If I can bring anyone into that hall I shall have done what I attempted.  But it is in the rooms, not in the hall, that there are fires and chairs and meals.  The hall is a place to wait in, a place from which to try the various doors, not a place to live in&#8230;And above all you must be asking which door is the true one; not which pleases you best by its paint and panelling.  In plain language, the question should never be: &#8216;Do I like that kind of service?&#8217; but &#8216;Are these doctrines true: Is holiness here?  Does my conscience move me towards this?  Is my reluctance to knock at this door due to my pride, or my mere taste, or my personal dislike of this particular door-keeper?&#8217;&#8221;</p>
<p>But Lewis&#8217;s next paragraph address the crisis of disunity evidenced by the collective responses given to our present article:</p>
<p>&#8220;When you have reached your own room, be kind to those who have chosen different doors and to those who are still in the hall.  If they are wrong they need your prayers all the more; and if they are your enemies, then you are under orders to pray for them.  That is one of the rules common to the whole house.&#8221;</p>
<p>Let us be more concerned with being a viable, living &#8216;body of Christ&#8217; than who is an &#8216;eye&#8217; or &#8216;foot&#8217; or &#8216;ear&#8217;:</p>
<p>&#8220;For as the body is one, and hath many members, and all the members of that one body, being many, are one body: so also is Christ.  For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit. For the body is not one member, but many.  </p>
<p>If the foot shall say, Because I am not the hand, I am not of the body; is it therefore not of the body?  And if the ear shall say, Because I am not the eye, I am not of the body; is it therefore not of the body?  </p>
<p>If the whole body were an eye, where were the hearing? If the whole were hearing, where were the smelling?  But now hath God set the members every one of them in the body, as it hath pleased him.  And if they were all one member, where were the body?  But now are they many members, yet but one body.  </p>
<p>And the eye cannot say unto the hand, I have no need of thee: nor again the head to the feet, I have no need of you.  Nay, much more those members of the body, which seem to be more feeble, are necessary:  </p>
<p>And those members of the body, which we think to be less honourable, upon these we bestow more abundant honour; and our uncomely parts have more abundant comeliness.  For our comely parts have no need: but God hath tempered the body together, having given more abundant honour to that part which lacked: That there should be no schism in the body; but that the members should have the same care one for another.  And whether one member suffer, all the members suffer with it; or one member be honoured, all the members rejoice with it.  Now ye are the body of Christ, and members in particular&#8221; (I Corinthians 12:12-27)</p>
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		<title>By: Monergismo &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Ser calvinista é o mesmo que ser reformado?</title>
		<link>http://www.whitehorseinn.org/blog/2010/04/21/the-hallway-and-the-rooms/#comment-4736</link>
		<dc:creator>Monergismo &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Ser calvinista é o mesmo que ser reformado?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Mar 2011 00:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Michael Horton compartilha seus pensamentos em um artigo intitulado “The Hallway and the Rooms”: [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Peter Catalano</title>
		<link>http://www.whitehorseinn.org/blog/2010/04/21/the-hallway-and-the-rooms/#comment-1659</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Catalano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Oct 2010 02:44:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This was an informative article. I love listening to \the boys\ on the White Horse Inn.  They have been a blessing to me. I come at this issue from a baptist perspective and believe that if one embraces the doctrines of grace and the \solas\ of the reformation, that qualifies one to be labeled \reformed.\  BB Warfied and John Calvin would have disagreed over the age of the earth, which one would not be deemed reformed? I embrace covenant theology over against dispensational theology, not over against believer&#039;s baptism. I embrace Reformed theology and calvinism over against Arminianism. It seems to me the argument centers on the baptism debate in covenant theology. Do you really have to believe that infant baptistm replaces circumcision in order to be an \authentic\ covenant theologian? Dr. Horton believes one must believe and practice infant baptism in order to be properly deemed as covenant (What&#039;s So Amazing About Grace?). I loved the book until he started hammering away about infant baptism and wondered what this had to do with the title of his book.  Currently, I am reading \Christless Christianity\ and thoroughly enjoying it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This was an informative article. I love listening to \the boys\ on the White Horse Inn.  They have been a blessing to me. I come at this issue from a baptist perspective and believe that if one embraces the doctrines of grace and the \solas\ of the reformation, that qualifies one to be labeled \reformed.\  BB Warfied and John Calvin would have disagreed over the age of the earth, which one would not be deemed reformed? I embrace covenant theology over against dispensational theology, not over against believer&#8217;s baptism. I embrace Reformed theology and calvinism over against Arminianism. It seems to me the argument centers on the baptism debate in covenant theology. Do you really have to believe that infant baptistm replaces circumcision in order to be an \authentic\ covenant theologian? Dr. Horton believes one must believe and practice infant baptism in order to be properly deemed as covenant (What&#8217;s So Amazing About Grace?). I loved the book until he started hammering away about infant baptism and wondered what this had to do with the title of his book.  Currently, I am reading \Christless Christianity\ and thoroughly enjoying it!</p>
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		<title>By: Is Being A Calvinist The Same As Being Reformed? &#8211; Tullian Tchividjian</title>
		<link>http://www.whitehorseinn.org/blog/2010/04/21/the-hallway-and-the-rooms/#comment-1649</link>
		<dc:creator>Is Being A Calvinist The Same As Being Reformed? &#8211; Tullian Tchividjian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Oct 2010 14:31:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Frank Octigan</title>
		<link>http://www.whitehorseinn.org/blog/2010/04/21/the-hallway-and-the-rooms/#comment-1152</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank Octigan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Aug 2010 18:22:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think:
Bloggers need to learn from corporate executives
Give me the executive summary
Skip the filler
Bullet points only
Don&#039;t coddle me or the subject
&quot;Cogent &amp; pithy&quot; as Dr. John Van Till said.
Thanks all.
Please don&#039;t confuse terse with rude.
Thanks again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think:<br />
Bloggers need to learn from corporate executives<br />
Give me the executive summary<br />
Skip the filler<br />
Bullet points only<br />
Don&#8217;t coddle me or the subject<br />
&#8220;Cogent &amp; pithy&#8221; as Dr. John Van Till said.<br />
Thanks all.<br />
Please don&#8217;t confuse terse with rude.<br />
Thanks again.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Parson</title>
		<link>http://www.whitehorseinn.org/blog/2010/04/21/the-hallway-and-the-rooms/#comment-1150</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Parson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 May 2010 05:29:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I want to second McWilliams comments above...and a few other thoughts.

We already have a term to declare exactly what we as Reformed Calvinists believe...Christian! Let us not forget our confessions and creeds affirm only biblical truth. It&#039;s not open for interpretation. Why do we surrender words to contemporary vernacular?

Also, if the LORD has brought people into the hallway, they aren&#039;t just visiting. Can they resist the call to enter a room? Or leave the home altogether? Of course not, thats the &#039;I&#039; in TULIP.

For more on John Piper&#039;s decision to invite Rick Warren to DGC check out my post with a video of Piper defending Warren&#039;s theology. Wow.

http://www.fireinthewall.com/christian-culture/john-piper-invites-rick-warren-to-dgc/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I want to second McWilliams comments above&#8230;and a few other thoughts.</p>
<p>We already have a term to declare exactly what we as Reformed Calvinists believe&#8230;Christian! Let us not forget our confessions and creeds affirm only biblical truth. It&#8217;s not open for interpretation. Why do we surrender words to contemporary vernacular?</p>
<p>Also, if the LORD has brought people into the hallway, they aren&#8217;t just visiting. Can they resist the call to enter a room? Or leave the home altogether? Of course not, thats the &#8216;I&#8217; in TULIP.</p>
<p>For more on John Piper&#8217;s decision to invite Rick Warren to DGC check out my post with a video of Piper defending Warren&#8217;s theology. Wow.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.fireinthewall.com/christian-culture/john-piper-invites-rick-warren-to-dgc/" rel="nofollow">http://www.fireinthewall.com/christian-culture/john-piper-invites-rick-warren-to-dgc/</a></p>
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		<title>By: McWilliams</title>
		<link>http://www.whitehorseinn.org/blog/2010/04/21/the-hallway-and-the-rooms/#comment-1149</link>
		<dc:creator>McWilliams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Apr 2010 12:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, for me this seems to bring more questions than answers as it would appear to once more suggest we cozy up with those of different faiths in the hallway and to not come out from among them and be ye separate!  I&#039;m almost hearing the appearance of ecumenism again and I wont go there to call &#039;brother&#039; those that are not but to speak the gospel to them and plead with them to know scriptural truth.  If there is only one scriptural truth then why do the multitudes of believers show a lack of unity?  I believe it is too much of man&#039;s opinion and too little time in the Word itself seeking Him!  I love to call myself a five point flaming calvinist, but only as to clarify that I love His word and His truth.  Taking on one more label will not make any of us more like Him as should be my goal and that of others.  The only answer to this maze in my mind is knowing Him and spending more time in His presence.
P.S. FWIW I would still object to Rick Warren being the speaker I choose to listen to and question the wisdom of seeking his collaboration in what is spoken to the multitude as Truth!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, for me this seems to bring more questions than answers as it would appear to once more suggest we cozy up with those of different faiths in the hallway and to not come out from among them and be ye separate!  I&#8217;m almost hearing the appearance of ecumenism again and I wont go there to call &#8216;brother&#8217; those that are not but to speak the gospel to them and plead with them to know scriptural truth.  If there is only one scriptural truth then why do the multitudes of believers show a lack of unity?  I believe it is too much of man&#8217;s opinion and too little time in the Word itself seeking Him!  I love to call myself a five point flaming calvinist, but only as to clarify that I love His word and His truth.  Taking on one more label will not make any of us more like Him as should be my goal and that of others.  The only answer to this maze in my mind is knowing Him and spending more time in His presence.<br />
P.S. FWIW I would still object to Rick Warren being the speaker I choose to listen to and question the wisdom of seeking his collaboration in what is spoken to the multitude as Truth!</p>
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		<title>By: Chris E</title>
		<link>http://www.whitehorseinn.org/blog/2010/04/21/the-hallway-and-the-rooms/#comment-1148</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris E</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Apr 2010 10:00:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The old-style evangelicalism, where the movement is defined by parachurch conferences, networks, and personalities, is hopefully on the wane,


Though the YRR is characterised almost exclusively by a set of conferences, networks and personalities.  This isn&#039;t the fault of the personalities themselves, who are largely very Godly, above reproach but the very nature of things means that their &#039;authenticity&#039; - for want of a better word - becomes part of the attraction.

As such, the YRR is a thoroughly modernist movement - the &#039;Reformed&#039; brand is appealing because of its authentic catchet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The old-style evangelicalism, where the movement is defined by parachurch conferences, networks, and personalities, is hopefully on the wane,</p>
<p>Though the YRR is characterised almost exclusively by a set of conferences, networks and personalities.  This isn&#8217;t the fault of the personalities themselves, who are largely very Godly, above reproach but the very nature of things means that their &#8216;authenticity&#8217; &#8211; for want of a better word &#8211; becomes part of the attraction.</p>
<p>As such, the YRR is a thoroughly modernist movement &#8211; the &#8216;Reformed&#8217; brand is appealing because of its authentic catchet.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Hardy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Hardy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Apr 2010 02:28:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I consider myself to be Reformed Baptist, because like my Paedo-Baptist friends I believe in CT. I realize that many Paedo-Baptist would not call a Credo-Baptist either Reformed, or CT, but I do.
As I read the writing of John Owen, although I don&#039;t come to his final conclusion concerning Paedo-Baptism, never the less for the most part I am in agreement with him.
A.W Pink who was a Baptist wrote on the same subject concerning CT writing, mirrored in many respects John Owens, yet like me his final conclusion was Credo-Baptism.

The reason I bring this subject up is not to debate the issue of Paedo vs. Credo, but because I really don&#039;t think calling myself a &quot;Reformed Baptist&quot; is wrong.
However, unlike some of my Baptist brothers and sisters, I would never make this particular issue one that requires me not to allow into membership into a local Baptist Church someone who is a Paedo-Baptist. With one exception, a Paedo-Baptist who isn&#039;t willing to respect the Baptist distinctives concerning baptism; where it is clear that allowing into membership will create division.
I believe that Reformed Baptists have more in common with other Reformed Christian denominations than we do with Arminian Baptists.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I consider myself to be Reformed Baptist, because like my Paedo-Baptist friends I believe in CT. I realize that many Paedo-Baptist would not call a Credo-Baptist either Reformed, or CT, but I do.<br />
As I read the writing of John Owen, although I don&#8217;t come to his final conclusion concerning Paedo-Baptism, never the less for the most part I am in agreement with him.<br />
A.W Pink who was a Baptist wrote on the same subject concerning CT writing, mirrored in many respects John Owens, yet like me his final conclusion was Credo-Baptism.</p>
<p>The reason I bring this subject up is not to debate the issue of Paedo vs. Credo, but because I really don&#8217;t think calling myself a &#8220;Reformed Baptist&#8221; is wrong.<br />
However, unlike some of my Baptist brothers and sisters, I would never make this particular issue one that requires me not to allow into membership into a local Baptist Church someone who is a Paedo-Baptist. With one exception, a Paedo-Baptist who isn&#8217;t willing to respect the Baptist distinctives concerning baptism; where it is clear that allowing into membership will create division.<br />
I believe that Reformed Baptists have more in common with other Reformed Christian denominations than we do with Arminian Baptists.</p>
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